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Laowise - China's top 5 famous foreigners

These modern-day Marcos and Matteos are fluent in Mandarin and would be recognised by most Chinese. However, do these familiar faces deserve their fame? Or is each one nothing more than a “filthy imperialist” - just another foreigner cashing in as the token white guy? For me, the jury is still out.

Dashan

It almost goes without saying that towering above all others is China’s biggest mountain: Mark Rowswell.

Dashan came to China with some Mandarin back in 1988. In that very same year, Rowswell shot to fame when he performed on the New Year Gala on CCTV. The sketch is not online but I found some of his other earlier work quite interesting:


Many laowai, particular those who speak Chinese but are not famous for it, have nothing but hate for this 43 year old. Call me a contrarian, but I feel compelled to come to Dashan's defense: Mark Rowswell is not trying to be cool and is good at what he does. And, and I expect that unlike many of his haters, rather than blurting out dreadful-but-confident Chinese, Dashan has learned to speak the language properly before opening his mouth.


Cao Cao

Next, meet Cao Cao. Jonathan Kos-Read came to China as a trained actor and after six years here now boasts that he has “acted in leading roles in over 25 prime-time Chinese TV shows and films, written several full-length original screen and teleplays in both English and Chinese, subtitled several Chinese films, assistant directed television shows and commercials and directed several short films”.

In my opinion, Dashan’s detractors should reserve at least some of their ire for this man. If the following clip is anything to go by, Kos-Read has chosen a fitting Chinese name - Cao Cao was known for his treachery:


Most likely, foreigners learning Chinese will have at some point been compared to someone on my list. Perhaps my issue with Kos-Read stems from the fact that he is the person that my Chinese is most often negatively compared to. Like Cao Cao, my Chinese name sounds identical to that of a character from the Three Kingdoms – Zhou Yu. However, the character for my “Yu” is different - it means stupid.


Ai Hua

The only female on my list, if Dashan was to rule over laowai China, Ai Hua would certainly be the first lady.

Like Dashan, Ai Hua has her critics: According to Yan Xishan, her Chinese name, which means “love China”, is the “most idiotic name ever taken by a laowai”, a name which reveals in its holder “a willingness to debase themselves for fame”.


Perhaps Great Warlord Yan would forgive a younger Ai Hua, she was a only little girl when she took this name. Ai Hua, or Charlotte McInnis, moved to China aged seven and began her illustrious TV and film career as a mere ten-year-old.


Da Long

Sometimes credited with bringing hip hop to Shanghai, Da Long launched a night with a marketing strategy he describes thus: “Get the hot women, and the hot men will follow”.

Da Long, aka. Andrew Ballen, now stands at the helm of a burgeoning media empire, has hosted radio shows, done voice-overs and forged multiple innovative marketing deals. Unfortunately, however, most Westerners will know Da Long for his cringe-worthy travel show on CCTV 9:



Jiefu

This traitor to the motherland - Jeff Locker to his American friends - is possibly Taiwan’s best answer to Dashan.

Unlike any of his mainland counterparts – Dashan could be labelled a sycophant to the Chinese authorities for having avoided any serious or sensitive discussion - the Taiwanese political climate has allowed Jiefu and others in Taiwan to make forays into political satire. Here he plays George Bush. The character - a regular appearance on Everybody Speaks Nonsense 全民大悶鍋 - was censored at one point, some say due to fears of upsetting the White House.

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With kids like this around – the sons and daughters expats, the days that laowai can attract any attention for their Mandarin skills are surely numbered…

98 comments:

Jonathan 'Cao Cao' Kos-Read said...

Ha Ha. We're actually all nice people. You're right about the clip though. It does make me look like a jerk. I was pissed off when I watched it - sigh - editing. Nice to be controversial.

Andrew "Dalong" Ballen said...

Interesting read... :) I think the term "cringe-worthy" might be a bit harsh, no? :P Chinese television is what it is; we tried to make it as zany and irreverent as the "powers that be" would allow. To wit: we weren't given much leeway. But you're right, it was a marketing platform and a test-bed for some of the current mixed marketing concepts we've in the pipeline. Good read. I'll be following your blog.

Drew Ballen 大龙

Conor said...

hey, Jez. Nice blog, that programme you mentioned from Taiwan was pretty funny. "Wa Ga Li Gong" is Taiwanese, the programme has become "全民最大黨"now, and it had regular impressions of Bush, and also Obama, played by A Ken.
I vehemently disagree with you about talking Chinese without learning it properly -by which I suppose you are referring to the likes of me, there are somethings which never come no matter how much you practice, although I know you will persist in your tonal snobbiness until the end, I think that perfectionists just give the idea to the chinese that accent means everything, when it clearly doesn't. Vocabulary and comprehension I find so much more valuable than talking like I've got a ramrod stuck up my arse. At the end of the day - if you hear a french person mispronouncing english or putting the stress on the wrong sylable or using the wrong tone you can understand - communication does not require mimicry of the speaker's tones and accent, it is rather the ability to be understood and to understand.

I was amused at the comment "cashing in as the token white guy? " when one of the guys was black.

I don't think that the guy in Taiwan is comparable to Dashan or the others, as there are so many people - including young people (particulary a german guy) who go on tv shows every day, as well as the Taiwanese speakers. I think it is no longer a phenomenon here.

How embarrassing that they found you.

Conor said...

Oh and...talking of Cheesy foreigners, and indeed "traitors to the motherland", didn't I see you in a cheesy hospital based Taiwanese drama. 龜笑鱉無尾

Jez Webb said...
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Jez Webb said...

Cao Cao: Sorry, I am sure you are nice. At the very least, you can take some light-hearted banter. I would almost definitely come off a lot worse on TV. Anyway, Zhou Yu never got on well with Cao Cao, right?

Dalong: To an Englishman, a lot of things seem cringe worthy. My English instinct to criticise everything is not a good thing, it annoys me as much as anyone.

Thanks for commenting. Far from being “embarrassed,” I was delighted that people are reading my blog. The fact that even those mentioned explicitly in my blog entry did not take anything personally was one reason why I was so surprised to see the comments of one reader…

Conor: Rather than the “likes of you,” I was referring to those that dominate situations with over-confident Chinese. Perhaps I was unclear; it was supposed to be more an attack on the cockiness of these people, not their Chinese. They have something that I often lack – confidence. Tones and pronunciation will come with practise, for me at least, confidence will not.

I agree with you about less-than-perfect Chinese. Although I do admit an unhealthy interest in tones, pronunciation is probably the thing most holding me back. However, despite struggling with them, I pay attention to tones because I enjoy them; I enjoy having an extra way to give meaning to the sounds that come out of my mouth.

When it comes to understanding foreigners, I would take what you said even further. In other countries, foreign accents are not only accepted, they are celebrated. At the end of the day, a French accent is sexy and a Russian accent can sound more manly. In fact, the same is probably true at night, or at the beginning of the day.

This is why I used to talk about reverting back to an English accent after mastering Chinese - a way of retaining my foreign identity. However, as someone once corrected me – it is more important to have good pronunciation with Chinese. As well as poor tones being harder to understand, to ignore pronunciation is to be culturally insensitive. Seeing as Chinese people try their best to improve their pronunciation - I have a Chinese friend who spent most of her broadcasting degree studying pronunciation. Unlike some cultural differences, Chinese attention to accent is not particularly disagreable. So considering that I am interested in tones anyway, why not use sounding propa as a way of fitting in?

Ben said...

Great list of people! I've been looking for a list of foreigners who speak Chinese well. This is really good. You even inspired me to expand the list to more people...take a look and let me know what you think Top 10 Foreigners Who Speak Chinese Better Than Me

FOARP said...

Please never write a post like this again. The force with which I punched the screen after watching the atrocious 'Cao Cao' (who apparently Googles his name everyday)damn near cracked the LCD.

Keith Perron said...

Personally there are two on this list I can't stand. But the one that sticks out the most of Dashan. I remember a few years ago he was working on a series for the CBC in Canada which never aired, which involved a scandal that involved funds the CBC paid for the series. Almost all Canadians who have heard about him ask the questions "Why do people in China like him?", "Because he speaks Chinese?"
He's boring and there are foreigners out here who speak just ask good Chinese and have more personality.
I also feel this guy has sold out. If you look at some of the events he hosts it raises my eyebrows. I remember an event he hosted in Beijing a few years back that translates into English as "The Gloria Achievements Of The Communist Party Of China". Talk about kissing the behinds of the folks at the Ministry Of Propaganda.

Curt 'Mei Daxia' McDivitt said...

Wow, Conor, your post makes me sick. English is ok to pronounce with an accent because it is still comprehensible! Chinese is absolutely not! Depending on where you are, what you are talking about... the tones mean a lot. Beyond that, pronunciation of the pinyin is just as important, unless you only plan on being understood by Chinese teachers.

What you say about the French or Russian English accent is true, but what is a good stereotype for an Asian English accent? Aren't they usually pretty derogatory?

I'm still learning Chinese, and there are times I can't understand my classmates because of their accents, and we've all studied 3+ years. I've talked to guys in bars that have been here 10+ years and still have horrible accents or atonal accents... it can be very indecipherable.

If Chinese didn't need tones, why isn't everything written in pinyin instead of characters?

Fionn said...

There is a very negative undertone to this article. These people are famous because they speak chinese as well as if not better than Chinese people. Is that not merit enough for them being famous? As the author of this article should know, being a Chinese student himself, Chinese is a very difficult language to learn if you are not brought up speaking it. These people are famous in China because they put enough effort into learning Chinese at a level that most foreigners never achieve. Chinese people are appreciative of foreigners who are interested enough in their culture to learn the language fluently. It is the foreigners who come to China and don't bother learning any Chinese or anything about the culture that i don't have much respect for. Major props to the guys that can speak Chinese fluently, i'll be among your ranks soon!

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